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Maddison, WI Shool Shooting - 3 Dead
by Sea Breeze in
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like the one in tennessee, this one in maddison, wi, was done be a female.

the police chief points out that: .

“yes, i don’t know whether [the shooter] was transgender or not, and quite frankly, i don’t think that’s even important.
Sea Breeze

As I suspected; It looks like the shooter was a new student at the Christian School, first semester. She previously attended public school at Madison Metropolitan School District.
Both of our kids went to a non-denominational K-12 Christian school the same size as the one in WI. I've seen parents take their kids out of public school and enroll the kids in a Christian School thinking that the proiblem with their child is their environment. Wrong. Their kids were just as troubled.

You can't feed kids a years-long steady diet of woke ideology, nihlism and evolution while living in a home without love and expect them to not be mentally ill.
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1922 Cedar Point Ohio Convention
by Nambo in
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i recall reading that daniel 12 verse 12 ( 12 blessed is he who waits, and comes to the one thousand three hundred and thirty-five days.

), was claimed to have been fulfilled by the cedar point ohio convention in 1922.. can anybody recall which publications this claim was published in please?.

or even better, a screen shot.
Sea Breeze

I think one flew over the cukoos nest at that convention. Some of their insanity can be found here:
w60 6/15 pp. 377-381
Part 40—“Your Will Be Done on Earth”

Here's their timeline:

Began the end of January, 1919

Ended the first half of September, 1922, at the second Cedar Point (Ohio) convention

“THE THOUSAND THREE HUNDRED AND THIRTY-FIVE DAYS” (Daniel 12:12, AT):

Began the first half of September, 1922, at the second Cedar Point (Ohio) convention

Ended in the month of May, 1926, at the London (England) International Convention

“TWO THOUSAND AND THREE HUNDRED EVENINGS AND MORNINGS” (Daniel 8:14, RS):

Began in the month of May, 1926, at the London (England) International Convention (May 25-31)

Ended on October 15, 1932, with the official publication of notice in The Watchtower

JW vs. Christian Message To the World - The Kingdom of God, or Reconciliation with God?

by Sea Breeze in

after stuydying jw's for over half a century, i haved concluded the following: .

old light / new light is a primary doctrine of jehovah’s witneses.

when they abandon on old prophecy or change a doctrine, they characterize this as “old light”.

Sea Breeze

Could you please elaborate on preaching the good news of the kingdom and the ministry of reconciliation ?

Jesus said that he was sent to the “lost sheep of house of Israel”, not Gentiles. But, they chose to kill him rather than be ruled by him. He later revealed in a Revelation to John that he would raise up 144k male Jewish virgins to preach the good news of the (coming) kingdom during the GT .

In the meantime, Jesus raised up The Apostle Paul as an “Apostle to the Gentiles”.

All the apostles founded Christian churches by announcing that God had been propitiated by a deal (covenant) brokered by Jesus, mankind’s Mediator.

No more was man God's enemy as far as God was concerned. “Whosoever” accepted the offer was Justified, meaning that they have zero sin debt to pay for; and hence are legally eligible for every conceivable blessing from God including the biggest prize of all - “sonship”.

The Ministry of Reconciliation swept the Roman world and has been the message of Christians for almost 2000 years.

Jolene Chu and Ollimatti Peltonen publication

by careful in

just published in cambridge university press's elements in new religious movements series, a short book or oversized pamphlet is now available by two witnesses, jolene chu from warwick and ollimatti peltonen from the selters branch.

https://www.amazon.com/jehovahs-witnesses-elements-religious-movements/dp/1009509764.

it's small, just 84 pages, including the bibliography.

Sea Breeze

The Watchtower has long referred to Christians as:

1. Bird food that will feed the fowls of heaven with their rotting flesh

2. Dung on the surface of the earth

3. Whores and prostitutes

4. Vomit eaters

They found out that they don't need to hate Christians as much as they used to, to get the same desired effect.

Belief in the doctrines of self atonement, 2nd chance theology and Arianism seem to be quite sufficient all by themselves to get people to reject "the forgiveness of sins" stipulated in the new covenant offered in Mt. 26: 227-28.

JW vs. Christian Message To the World - The Kingdom of God, or Reconciliation with God?

by Sea Breeze in

after stuydying jw's for over half a century, i haved concluded the following: .

old light / new light is a primary doctrine of jehovah’s witneses.

when they abandon on old prophecy or change a doctrine, they characterize this as “old light”.

Sea Breeze

Touch of Grey,

We all know your position.

But this thread is about the very different messages that JW's and Christians bring to the world. Both can be found in NT scripture:

The Kingdom of God vs. Reconciliation with God

Which is the correct message for Christians?

Note: JW's rejected and shut off the ministry of reconciliation (Justification) with God in the 1930's.

(See Wt. 1938 PG. 104-105 - "The… other sheep… are… not even justified“)

JW vs. Christian Message To the World - The Kingdom of God, or Reconciliation with God?

by Sea Breeze in

after stuydying jw's for over half a century, i haved concluded the following: .

old light / new light is a primary doctrine of jehovah’s witneses.

when they abandon on old prophecy or change a doctrine, they characterize this as “old light”.

Sea Breeze

After stuydying JW's for over half a century, I haved concluded the following:

Old Light / New Light is a primary doctrine of Jehovah’s Witneses. When they abandon on old prophecy or change a doctrine, they characterize this as “old light”. When they issue a new prophecy or issue a new policy, they characterize this as “new light”.

The average JW is so indoctrinated and psychologically invested in Watchtower they cannot see the deception that is so obvious to outsiders.

Galatians 1: 8–9 shows that Christians have been sharing the same gospel message since the times of the apostles. This scripture TWICE curses anyone who preaches a message that the apostles didn’t preach. This scripture destroys the heretical JW doctrine of “new light”.

JW’s do not preach the Christian message. They imagine that they preach a message given to 144K male Jewish virgins spoken of in Revelation during the Great Tribulation.

Christians preach the apostolic message of “reconciliation with God” through the blood covenant offered in Mt. 26: 27–28 "for the forgiveness of sins" and being born again. JW's preach a future kingdom message that will be rather dramatically delivered by male Jewish virgins during the GT.

The Christian message:

2 Cor. 5 : Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation. The old has passed away; behold, the new has come. 18 All this is from God, who through Christ reconciled us to himself and gave us the ministry of reconciliation; 19 that is, in Christ God was reconciling the world to himself, not counting their trespasses against them, and entrusting to us the message of reconciliation.

Any questions, comments, disagreements or observations?

Living in the last of the last days - A new prophecy

by Listener in

although not a new concept by the watchtower, particularly in public talks and at assemblies, they have now put this prophecy in writing.watchtower oct 2019 page 8 -13 study no.40 titled -keep busy during the last of "the last days".

the first paragraph asks '1.

what convinces us that we are living in “the last days”?

Sea Breeze

I’m sure it was no accident that this was announced on Aprils Fools’ Day.

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars (continued)

by Simon in

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uh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.

Sea Breeze

That Billy Carson / Wes Huff debate was great. Thanks for posting. Here's one of the comments:

I hope Wes sees this comment. I have been an atheist that believed many of Billy's claims for my entire life. since the debate Ive been watching a lot of your content and im going to say something I have never said before. Wes has single handedly dismantled my entire world view on the Abrahamic doctrines. Not only do I realize how incorrect Ive been my entire life, I am beginning to believe the Christians may actually be right about everything. I cant believe Im saying that, but its true. Thanks Wes, for shattering my world view and setting me down on a solid foundation.

Maddison, WI Shool Shooting - 3 Dead

by Sea Breeze in

like the one in tennessee, this one in maddison, wi, was done be a female.

the police chief points out that: .

“yes, i don’t know whether [the shooter] was transgender or not, and quite frankly, i don’t think that’s even important.

Sea Breeze

Looks like her parents divorced and remarried each other multiple times. She was caught in a lot of instability and needed threapy to navigate changing custody court orders.

Still, almost impossible to imagine a15 year old girl doing this.

Maddison, WI Shool Shooting - 3 Dead

by Sea Breeze in

like the one in tennessee, this one in maddison, wi, was done be a female.

the police chief points out that: .

“yes, i don’t know whether [the shooter] was transgender or not, and quite frankly, i don’t think that’s even important.

Sea Breeze

Looks like there is a manifesto circulating on the internet attributed to her. It is a very dark diatribe against humanity in general and her parents in particular.

If it is really hers, she stated that she had planned to commit suicide for a long time but felt that perpetrating a shooting would be “better for evolution rather than just one stupid boring suicide.